My Appearance on the MOYA Podcast


I’m thrilled to announce my appearance on the MOYA podcast with the incredible Ntsiki Mazwai! Today, I had the honor of joining this dignified platform dedicated to African healers and scholars to unpack some of the most pressing issues facing our world. We dove deep into topics like racism, activism, white supremacy, white privilege, and the influence of MAGA, offering a rich conversation that reflects our shared commitment to truth and justice.
As the founder of the White Equality Alliance, I brought our mission to the forefront: to combat racism in all its forms and ensure every individual—regardless of race—can discuss their identity openly without fear of being labeled prejudiced. We explored how structural racism continues to shape policy debates today.
The discussion with Ntsiki was eye-opening. We tackled the complexities of white supremacy and privilege, acknowledging their historical roots while emphasizing that our movement isn’t about defending any one group’s dominance but about fostering equity for all. We also addressed the MAGA narrative, critiquing its divisive elements while advocating for a space where all perspectives can be shared.
This episode is a testament to our belief that there can be no real anti-racist strategy that does not address racial equity. It’s a call to action for all of us to engage in respectful, evidence-based dialogue—whether it’s about immigration policies like TPS, with its $1.4 billion economic impact, or the broader fight against systemic inequities. Ntsiki’s passion for uplifting African voices complemented our mission, creating a powerful bridge between our efforts.
I invite you to watch the full episode here: https://www.youtube.com/live/oVkkq-31OrI?si=t7IYjGqfDoGTIWPC
Thank you, Ntsiki, and the MOYA community, for this opportunity to connect and grow. Let’s keep pushing for equity and understanding!
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What Is White Equality Alliance? The White Equality Alliance is a newly launched grassroots movement committed to the belief that every race deserves equal respect, dignity, and the freedom to celebrate its heritage. If it’s acceptable to express pride in being Black, Latino, or Indigenous, then it should be just as acceptable for white people to express pride in their culture—without fear, shame, or accusation. We believe in the inherent worth of every human being, regardless of race or background. But in today’s climate, let’s be honest—there’s a clear double standard. While many forms of cultural pride are celebrated, white pride is often immediately labeled as hateful or racist. That’s not equality. That’s censorship by fear. At White Equality Alliance, we reject hate in all forms—and that includes the hate that comes from silencing certain voices. Pride in one’s heritage should never require tearing others down. Our mission is to create a space where white identity can be expressed in a healthy, respectful, and non-supremacist way—just like every other group is allowed to do. We’re just getting started, but our message is simple: Equality means everyone. If you believe in fairness, in honest conversation, and in the right of all people to celebrate who they are without shame or hostility—then we invite you to join us. Speak up. Stand with us. Help shape a future where pride doesn’t divide us—it reminds us that we all belong.